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Ki[Tsume]ba
03-02-2005, 08:33 PM
This is a serious topic.

I just think the whole thing that happened in Newark was digusting and I guess I wanted to get the word out.

~THE STORY~

There was a boy named Eddie (age 17) who eventually became the woman named Gwen. (She idolized Gwen Stafani) He came out to his family on Thanksgiving and they were all pretty cool w/ it. His mother even went shopping for new clothes and they even discussed breast sizes. The only problem was the neighborhood. They discriminated against her b/c of her being a boy in the past.

It wasn't really anything new. [S] he used to play w/ Barbies and that kind of thing. I suppose the community just didn't wanna accept that sort of thing. Her metting up w/ 'The 3 Stooges' was the begining of the end. Gwen wanted to party and she wanted to party w/ men. The guys couldn't get enough of her and she gave them what they both wanted.

Eventually the dudes became suspiscious. It all started as a joke really. "Is she really a he?" But they had their own reasons to suspect. After seeing Gwen fight (she fought like a guy) and having to 'use the other door' b/c 'she was on her pd' was enough for them but they were angry and they thought something should be done about the 'fag'.

And...they killed her/him.

She pleaded w/ them...'Please don't I have a family...'

I suppose if the dudes weren't so uber macho they would probably have just beaten her or something, but they KILLED HER.

They story seems to be everywhere now. I found it in the lastest issue of the Rolling Stone (Green Day is on the cover) and nearly cried.

And I wanted to know pple opinion on it and if there is anyone Trans I'd like to hear what its like from you...

Matsuro/Kiba

Caveat Lector
03-03-2005, 01:04 AM
Hahahaha. I am not surprised. I would have done the same. We have so many ignorant fools, why not kill a few. It is no ones but that person's fault for changing sexs. How pathetic. They deserve to die and burn in hell. Hahahahahah.

Rhoey
03-03-2005, 10:29 AM
Slayer, you talk exactly like a catholic ;)


Personally, I think it's wrong to change sex.

Of course, tell that to the person who wants to do it; they won't listen and they'll do it anyway.

The problem here is that there are people who are born "faulty"; they're neither male nor female. More like inbetween, or they would've been males, but didn't develop fully to men.
These people are looked down on because they don't really have a sex; they're a mixture of two sexes.


But the biggest problem is the world today and what kinds of people there are in it; there are these "hobby transsexuals" who alter their bodies "for fun" or because they're perverse pigs who want to touch themselves and lets others touch them.
I know a few exemples of that.

Anyway, I'll write more later. Need to rush.

jeff
03-03-2005, 10:50 AM
man! They killed him/her! Wrong onso many levels! It's not their right to take a human life, reguardless of what they believe in. It wasn't fair at all! This is the kind of discrimination i hate, escpecially against homosexuals, and transexuals. It's their choice and no one has te right to say other wise. The media has gone mad with it and it just isn't helping at all. I get called a gay for having long hair. So if gay is now an isult, to actually be gay around here is a deathwish! I'm not joking. You have to be straight or dead... Peple should stop discriminating againt them. I think they are scared of them or something. I would happily talk to a gay or transexual, without predjudice. Nothig will change if a freind "comes out of the closet" I'd still reapect them. Nothing will have changed but the truth. I'd be happier knowing that they were comfterable with theoir sexuality. I'm disgusted with those peole who killed them! Terrible. I hope they get put behind bars for a very long time!

7minutes
03-03-2005, 10:51 AM
Hahahaha. I am not surprised. I would have done the same. We have so many ignorant fools, why not kill a few. It is no ones but that person's fault for changing sexs. How pathetic. They deserve to die and burn in hell. Hahahahahah.

Holy crap...are you saying that Gwen, desereved to be killed?

jeff
03-03-2005, 10:56 AM
Hahahaha. I am not surprised. I would have done the same. We have so many ignorant fools, why not kill a few. It is no ones but that person's fault for changing sexs. How pathetic. They deserve to die and burn in hell. Hahahahahah.

Holy crap...are you saying that Gwen, desereved to be killed?

What kind of crazy person are you? No one deserves to be killed man! What did they teach in in school? Are you that prejudiced, that you would kill someone who goes againt your "beliefs"

7minutes
03-03-2005, 10:59 AM
I wanted to read more into it, i checked this out on the web and i found the following:

In Memory of Gwen Araujo

Gwen Araujo dreamed of becoming a Hollywood make up artist. She has been described as a beautiful person both inside and out and always smiling. She always thought of herself as a girl, preferred the name Gwen, and always wanted a sex change. She lived in Newark, CA, a small town 30 miles from San Francisco, the supposed gay capital of the United States.

At age 14, Gwen had the courage to come out to her parents. She grew out her hair and wore crop tops and women's jeans. Finally, at age 17, she borrowed her friend's miniskirt and her mom's blouse and had the courage to go out in a skirt as herself for the first time.

"[S]he went through a lot of pain, and people didn't respect h[er], her mother, Sylvia Guerrero, said. "It took a lot of guts. [S]he's strong, and [s]he finally came out."

Gwen went to a house party introduced as "Lida," and passed as a beautiful girl. That is until Paul Merel's girlfriend discovered in the bathroom that she was transsexual, and announced it at the party. Authorities say that Michael William Magidson, 22, Jose Antonio Merel, 22, and Jaron Chase Nabors, 19, punched Gwen in the face, beat her, gashing her face, and then dragged her to a garage while she was semi-conscious and strangled her with rope until she was killed. The men then allegedly tied her wrists and ankles, wrapped her in a bedsheet, and drove her body to Silver Fork Campground, about 100 miles away in El Dorado County.

Paul Richard Merel Jr., 25, Paul Merel's brother, was also arrested with the others, but released Friday. Magidson, Paul Merel, and Nabors are charged with murder and also face a hate-crime enhancement.


Photo courtesy of
billingsgazette.com
A candlelight vigil was held for Gwen by 100 friends and family members on Friday evening. "I am overwhelmed by the support this community has shown," her mother said, "but I am also shocked and scared this has happened in this small town." Guerrero also expressed hope that her daughter's death was not in vain. The family plans to bury Araujo in a dress and in makeup, and to call her Gwen on her tombstone. Contributions may be sent to Eddie Araujo Jr. Memorial Fund, San Benito Bank, 300 Tres Pinos Road, Hollister, CA, 95023. More information will be posted as it becomes available.

This is yet another case in the trend of violence against the transgender community, and, more disturbingly, escalating murders of transgendered youth. In Washington, D.C. last August, Stephanie Thomas, 19, and Ukea Davis, 18, to transgendered girls, were both shot dead in their car. Last year, a 16-year-old transgender Navajo teen named Fred Martinez Jr., who wore makeup and carried a purse, was killed in Cortez, Colorado. In 1999, 19-year-old transsexual Alina Marie Barragan was strangled to death in San Jose.

The public needs to be educated about transgenderism and transgender oppression, and these killings must stop. Transgendered related murders happen over once a month. For an attempt at the most complete list of transgender murders, visit remembering our dead.

The media has been fairly ignorant about this story. The story has gotten a lot of press, which is good, but Gwen is always referred to as he, when she was clearly transsexual. Many versions of the story also say that Gwen was beaten once her "true gender" was discovered. Gwen's "true gender" was female--it was her sex that was discovered, and many would even object to the idea that Gwen's "true" sex was male.

Gay activist Wiggsy Silversteen was quoted as saying, "We really have a responsibility to be very vocal, particularly with cross- dressing boys, that this is a dangerous world for them." While this is true, the lesson to be learned from this tragedy is not that we should scold and scare crossdressing boys. The solution is not to blame the victim, to tell teens to stop crossdressing. The lesson is that we need more education, more visibility, more writing and more activism to make this a safer world for all trans youth and transgendered people.

Story by Jordan Balagot

Assisted Living Dracula
03-03-2005, 01:13 PM
i really didnt find reason to kill her. It was their fault for being blind.

Hiro
03-03-2005, 01:29 PM
thx 7 mins for the contribution of the write up

7minutes
03-03-2005, 05:29 PM
Also, this is what she looks like, IMO she's quite nice looking ^^

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/kirklander/gwen_araujo.jpg

Ki[Tsume]ba
03-03-2005, 08:39 PM
Thnx alot dude. And that's really a MALE so^^;; Yeah.

Ki[Tsume]ba
03-03-2005, 08:47 PM
Hahahaha. I am not surprised. I would have done the same. We have so many ignorant fools, why not kill a few. It is no ones but that person's fault for changing sexs. How pathetic. They deserve to die and burn in hell. Hahahahahah.

It's pple like you that contribute the shitiness of the world.
NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

People who do change sexes do it to feel more comfortable in their own bodies. People who do go through with it have way more balls than you'd ever have.

They KNOW what they have to put up w/.
They KNOW the reactions that they'll get from people. Who the hell are you decide who burns in hell and who doesn't?

You shouldn't judge if you don't know anything about the person or their life. That's why I refuse, no matter how much of an 4$$ someone may act, to hold it against them. *glares*

Seraphim
03-04-2005, 01:31 AM
Those men were idiots. They were murderers.

They are a sickening example of the scum of the earth.

Society can kill. Our ideas of perfection and what is normal are so firmly established, that events such as cross-dressing as a girl or sex changes are looked down upon. Even to the point of murder.

What idiots. They were so quick to blame someone else instead of themselves for their own actions.

Caveat Lector
03-04-2005, 02:08 AM
Hahahahaha. I find this a joke. First, don't call me catholic. Second, I believe he deserved what he got. To me, every sin is the same, it is truth, deal with it. Change your sex? Hahaha, it's a joke. Beliefs? It is nothing to do with beliefs. Today America will accept almost anything because they let things slide by. Jeff, you are a joke, and not worth my dicussion time since your evidence lacks anything to support such a claim. Ki..who are you to talk like that? Do you believe in a God? I highly doubt. If people can't accept who they are, then they deserve death. There are people who can barely survive, malnutrition, the list goes on. Then this person *****es about how they don't like they were born? Ki..have more balls? What are you even talking about? Being disgraced with yourself and changing makes you have more balls? You are such a joke, yet you are most likely female. Also, Seraphim is nothing more than a joke to me. Normal isn't set and is constantly changing fool. Scum? What they did was justified. Maybe they shouldn't have done this, yet it was necessary to send a message. The word "morals' have no meaning anymore. Everything you say is horrid. Hahahahaha.

Sei Akujin
03-04-2005, 02:53 AM
I am sorry, but I picked stooge. From my POV, all of these people were all screwed up somewhere.

Caveat Lector
03-04-2005, 02:58 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

frank
03-04-2005, 04:26 AM
Hahahahaha. I find this a joke. First, don't call me catholic. Second, I believe he deserved what he got. To me, every sin is the same, it is truth, deal with it. Change your sex? Hahaha, it's a joke. Beliefs? It is nothing to do with beliefs. Today America will accept almost anything because they let things slide by. Jeff, you are a joke, and not worth my dicussion time since your evidence lacks anything to support such a claim. Ki..who are you to talk like that? Do you believe in a God? I highly doubt. If people can't accept who they are, then they deserve death. There are people who can barely survive, malnutrition, the list goes on. Then this person b*****s about how they don't like they were born? Ki..have more balls? What are you even talking about? Being disgraced with yourself and changing makes you have more balls? You are such a joke, yet you are most likely female. Also, Seraphim is nothing more than a joke to me. Normal isn't set and is constantly changing fool. Scum? What they did was justified. Maybe they shouldn't have done this, yet it was necessary to send a message. The word "morals' have no meaning anymore. Everything you say is horrid. Hahahahaha.


Congratulations on having achieved the arogance of the perfect, the sainted, the most holy, that YOU can set the rules for everyone else. In your despicable, malevolent way, the only contribution which you make to this society that you find so "pathetic" is to give us a yardstick by which the rest of us can measure how NOT to think, how NOT,to act, and in short, how NOT to be.


Who in the hell, do you think you are anyway? A stupid, silly, horrendous excuse for being a human being, and you call the rest of the world "pathetic"? You are critical to the point of not caring how your idiotic words may trample the feelings of others.

Your delusions are the kind that are treated in insane asylums. You have been calling for my blood. You have gone too far with this last rendition of exactly whar is wrong in the world today, and from time immemorial. Look in the mirror to see the truly pathetic face. It will be yours. That mirror will also reflect your drivel that you expect everyone else to bow down to.

You are a sick, demented, tormented, mindless idiot. You want my blood.? You have stated in your posts that you wanted to kill me. Hey, man, go for it.

Jerk! And since you derive some sadistic pleasure in hiding behind a facade of intellectual rhetoric and foreign language: le digo una vez, y nada mas una vez! Vete para el carajo, cabron, y le miro alli con el diablo para la pelea que quires. Pero tengase una cuidado que yo no le encuentro primero. Hijo del diablo, mas malcriado y mas maldicho en el entero mundo.

One final thought for you! If we are so pathetic, so foolish, so stupid, and on, and on, and on, and on why don't you go away? Go find some like minded idiots that will truly appreciate your sarcasm, your wit, your intellectual superiority? Or are you just too good for the rest of the world?

Tenemos una palabra en Espanol para tipos como usted, simple BRUTO!

Ya lo tienes cabron mas feo en el mundo entero. Quires matarme, como has dicho? Bueno, aqui le espero!

The true joke is upon you, SLAYER OF GOD. Indeed you have earned your name! So it is that you wish to be called? So you are! But know this, SLAYER OF GOD, and know it well. That with the destruction or slaying of that God, all that is left is EVIL! Do you see YOUR PATHETIC, STUPID, JOKE of a face yet, SLAYER OF GOD?

Want to send me some more PMs? Go ahead! Want to question my maturity, you sick piece of an abonimable presence on my shoe? Go ahead!

Idiot! You think you can match wits with me? You are more insane than I thought. Want to "stir the kettle?" Congratulations, you accomplished that splendid goal of achievemnt and nobility. You hurt a lot of people! Wonderful, fine people, that in their youthful, forgiving way, have chosen not to call for YOUR blood.

No more. You have not made any real contributions here. You have not created anything worthy of merit. I don't care what it is inside your soul that lies there, festering like a maggot filled tomb, waiting for its next meal
by feeding off the beauty and gentle spirits I have come to know and love on this forum.

One of your posts criticised me for "sucking up " to the members. And that "they did not care about me." Wanna bet?

You don't like it here? LEAVE
You think we are fools? LEAVE
You think we are pathetic? LEAVE

Get the picture?

frank
03-04-2005, 05:09 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

Bah!

frank
03-04-2005, 05:10 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

And, as I have told you before,

"apres la deluge, moi"

frank
03-04-2005, 05:14 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

SEEKER OF POWER? Interesting.

LEVEL 1? Interesting.

frank
03-04-2005, 05:17 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

334 POSTS? Oh my! Most impressive! May I be allowed in your presence, your exalted holiness? Shall I walk in backwards, or is it required that I crawl on my belly to approach your splendid and magnificent person?

JERK!

Soi Fon
03-04-2005, 05:21 AM
o.o'

Well I don't think she/he should have got murdered for how they were. So the only people at fault were the parents it seems for letting their child become that way. This is my POV. Parents are supose to love their children, not ignore them, maybe she/he wanted attention, so she/he did this. Who knows? Not me. I cannot judge people by the way they look, she/he may have been the nicest person on this planet.

So I refuse to vote for any of the choices listed above.

frank
03-04-2005, 05:25 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

Perhaps you can help me with a very difficult which I am having SLAYER OF GOD! I would really appreciate the wisdom and sensibility that you have displayed since you joined ACF?

I need to know how NOT to contradict myself! I know that I am a poor, pathetic, stupid, and unworthy fool, but if you would grant me that one little bit of knowledge--which you must have, to be so certain whereof you speak--I would kiss the very ground upon which you walk. I would announce and herald to all of your approach, as would be fitting a true God.

frank
03-04-2005, 05:28 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

Don't even know why I have wasted my time. Get a life man, get a life.

Soi Fon
03-04-2005, 05:31 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

Don't even know why I have wasted my time. Get a life man, get a life.Frank, calm down. o.o'

frank
03-04-2005, 05:36 AM
A child, a very young person was murdered. Not in battle, not accidentally, not in a street fight or a waterfront brawl, but simply because of a preference of display in terms of gender, sexuality, dress, and even behavior!

Who is insane enough to think that murder for this is justifiable?

frank
03-04-2005, 05:37 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

Don't even know why I have wasted my time. Get a life man, get a life.Frank, calm down. o.o'

NO!

Soi Fon
03-04-2005, 05:41 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

Don't even know why I have wasted my time. Get a life man, get a life.Frank, calm down. o.o'

NO!

What are you trying to prove? o.o' Slayer is cold hearted. You should know that. Sei will end up locking this thread and giving someone a warning for misconduct.

frank
03-04-2005, 06:26 AM
Hahahaha so true. Yet, people today, such ignorance. Especially when this relates to -god-. People contradict themselves...desiring one thing yet being fully aware their way will get them nowhere.

Don't even know why I have wasted my time. Get a life man, get a life.Frank, calm down. o.o'

NO!

What are you trying to prove? o.o' Slayer is cold hearted. You should know that. Sei will end up locking this thread and giving someone a warning for misconduct.

OK, I'll calm down and, again, as necessary, my humble apologies. :(

Hiro
03-04-2005, 10:43 AM
What are you trying to prove? o.o' Slayer is cold hearted. You should know that. Sei will end up locking this thread and giving someone a warning for misconduct.

Does it mean we are willing to let people condamn others to hell just because they think its fun and for the reason behind this one which is cold-heartedness? I personally find it irrelavent.

Rhoey
03-04-2005, 02:43 PM
Chill out.
This will lead you nowhere. And it's good to see you've calmed down, Frank.

I think most of you here remember the time when I told everyone to f*** off and that everyone are all pathetic idiots?
And the complaints the admins got about me, asking if they could somehow suspend me or set me back to normal member instead of mod?

I do that sometimes, without even caring.
There's always a background to that kind behaviour. Something that triggers it.

What I'm trying to say is that I'm not blaming slayer for the way he is. I'm not expecting him to like me or accept me either.
I'm just saying I can relate to the way he is, all too much.

Though I know it aggravates you, Frank. It's never worth wasting energy on hating someone or something. Use that energy for something else instead. You're just aggravating yourself with this.



Anyway, don't bring this up anymore.
Just move on posting normally, or if not, then I could as well close this topic.

Mac
03-04-2005, 02:53 PM
Hahahahaha. I find this a joke. First, don't call me catholic. Second, I believe he deserved what he got. To me, every sin is the same, it is truth, deal with it. Change your sex? Hahaha, it's a joke. Beliefs? It is nothing to do with beliefs. Today America will accept almost anything because they let things slide by. Jeff, you are a joke, and not worth my dicussion time since your evidence lacks anything to support such a claim. Ki..who are you to talk like that? Do you believe in a God? I highly doubt. If people can't accept who they are, then they deserve death. There are people who can barely survive, malnutrition, the list goes on. Then this person b*****s about how they don't like they were born? Ki..have more balls? What are you even talking about? Being disgraced with yourself and changing makes you have more balls? You are such a joke, yet you are most likely female. Also, Seraphim is nothing more than a joke to me. Normal isn't set and is constantly changing fool. Scum? What they did was justified. Maybe they shouldn't have done this, yet it was necessary to send a message. The word "morals' have no meaning anymore. Everything you say is horrid. Hahahahaha.


Congratulations on having achieved the arogance of the perfect, the sainted, the most holy, that YOU can set the rules for everyone else. In your despicable, malevolent way, the only contribution which you make to this society that you find so "pathetic" is to give us a yardstick by which the rest of us can measure how NOT to think, how NOT,to act, and in short, how NOT to be.


Who in the hell, do you think you are anyway? A stupid, silly, horrendous excuse for being a human being, and you call the rest of the world "pathetic"? You are critical to the point of not caring how your idiotic words may trample the feelings of others.

Your delusions are the kind that are treated in insane asylums. You have been calling for my blood. You have gone too far with this last rendition of exactly whar is wrong in the world today, and from time immemorial. Look in the mirror to see the truly pathetic face. It will be yours. That mirror will also reflect your drivel that you expect everyone else to bow down to.

You are a sick, demented, tormented, mindless idiot. You want my blood.? You have stated in your posts that you wanted to kill me. Hey, man, go for it.

Jerk! And since you derive some sadistic pleasure in hiding behind a facade of intellectual rhetoric and foreign language: le digo una vez, y nada mas una vez! Vete para el carajo, cabron, y le miro alli con el diablo para la pelea que quires. Pero tengase una cuidado que yo no le encuentro primero. Hijo del diablo, mas malcriado y mas maldicho en el entero mundo.

One final thought for you! If we are so pathetic, so foolish, so stupid, and on, and on, and on, and on why don't you go away? Go find some like minded idiots that will truly appreciate your sarcasm, your wit, your intellectual superiority? Or are you just too good for the rest of the world?

Tenemos una palabra en Espanol para tipos como usted, simple BRUTO!

Ya lo tienes cabron mas feo en el mundo entero. Quires matarme, como has dicho? Bueno, aqui le espero!

The true joke is upon you, SLAYER OF GOD. Indeed you have earned your name! So it is that you wish to be called? So you are! But know this, SLAYER OF GOD, and know it well. That with the destruction or slaying of that God, all that is left is EVIL! Do you see YOUR PATHETIC, STUPID, JOKE of a face yet, SLAYER OF GOD?

Want to send me some more PMs? Go ahead! Want to question my maturity, you sick piece of an abonimable presence on my shoe? Go ahead!

Idiot! You think you can match wits with me? You are more insane than I thought. Want to "stir the kettle?" Congratulations, you accomplished that splendid goal of achievemnt and nobility. You hurt a lot of people! Wonderful, fine people, that in their youthful, forgiving way, have chosen not to call for YOUR blood.

No more. You have not made any real contributions here. You have not created anything worthy of merit. I don't care what it is inside your soul that lies there, festering like a maggot filled tomb, waiting for its next meal
by feeding off the beauty and gentle spirits I have come to know and love on this forum.

One of your posts criticised me for "sucking up " to the members. And that "they did not care about me." Wanna bet?

You don't like it here? LEAVE
You think we are fools? LEAVE
You think we are pathetic? LEAVE

Get the picture?

wow... frank lost it. And he beat my essay on spammers too >_<

someone else who shares the same view on SoG as I do. good for you.

Slayer, this is basically what people think of you. People hold back so much when you critisise them. Not intending to start a flame-fest again, but you think we are the weak ones for the way we act. wrong./ We are strong for being able to hold our damn tongues.
You are weak for not being able to know when your true opinion is wanted on something.

and like he says. you have a problem with us. Leave. we don't need to leave because of one lousy member deciding he wants to be big and hard.

And Rhoey: don't worry about what you said. I know that everyone had a limit to tolerance against things.

Hiro
03-04-2005, 04:38 PM
good speech and now we should return to topic. No more flaming and hatred.

frank
03-04-2005, 05:28 PM
good speech and now we should return to topic. No more flaming and hatred.

Tx Hiro.

Tis done & said, no more, my promise!

frank
03-04-2005, 05:30 PM
Hahahahaha. I find this a joke. First, don't call me catholic. Second, I believe he deserved what he got. To me, every sin is the same, it is truth, deal with it. Change your sex? Hahaha, it's a joke. Beliefs? It is nothing to do with beliefs. Today America will accept almost anything because they let things slide by. Jeff, you are a joke, and not worth my dicussion time since your evidence lacks anything to support such a claim. Ki..who are you to talk like that? Do you believe in a God? I highly doubt. If people can't accept who they are, then they deserve death. There are people who can barely survive, malnutrition, the list goes on. Then this person b*****s about how they don't like they were born? Ki..have more balls? What are you even talking about? Being disgraced with yourself and changing makes you have more balls? You are such a joke, yet you are most likely female. Also, Seraphim is nothing more than a joke to me. Normal isn't set and is constantly changing fool. Scum? What they did was justified. Maybe they shouldn't have done this, yet it was necessary to send a message. The word "morals' have no meaning anymore. Everything you say is horrid. Hahahahaha.


Congratulations on having achieved the arogance of the perfect, the sainted, the most holy, that YOU can set the rules for everyone else. In your despicable, malevolent way, the only contribution which you make to this society that you find so "pathetic" is to give us a yardstick by which the rest of us can measure how NOT to think, how NOT,to act, and in short, how NOT to be.


Who in the hell, do you think you are anyway? A stupid, silly, horrendous excuse for being a human being, and you call the rest of the world "pathetic"? You are critical to the point of not caring how your idiotic words may trample the feelings of others.

Your delusions are the kind that are treated in insane asylums. You have been calling for my blood. You have gone too far with this last rendition of exactly whar is wrong in the world today, and from time immemorial. Look in the mirror to see the truly pathetic face. It will be yours. That mirror will also reflect your drivel that you expect everyone else to bow down to.

You are a sick, demented, tormented, mindless idiot. You want my blood.? You have stated in your posts that you wanted to kill me. Hey, man, go for it.

Jerk! And since you derive some sadistic pleasure in hiding behind a facade of intellectual rhetoric and foreign language: le digo una vez, y nada mas una vez! Vete para el carajo, cabron, y le miro alli con el diablo para la pelea que quires. Pero tengase una cuidado que yo no le encuentro primero. Hijo del diablo, mas malcriado y mas maldicho en el entero mundo.

One final thought for you! If we are so pathetic, so foolish, so stupid, and on, and on, and on, and on why don't you go away? Go find some like minded idiots that will truly appreciate your sarcasm, your wit, your intellectual superiority? Or are you just too good for the rest of the world?

Tenemos una palabra en Espanol para tipos como usted, simple BRUTO!

Ya lo tienes cabron mas feo en el mundo entero. Quires matarme, como has dicho? Bueno, aqui le espero!

The true joke is upon you, SLAYER OF GOD. Indeed you have earned your name! So it is that you wish to be called? So you are! But know this, SLAYER OF GOD, and know it well. That with the destruction or slaying of that God, all that is left is EVIL! Do you see YOUR PATHETIC, STUPID, JOKE of a face yet, SLAYER OF GOD?

Want to send me some more PMs? Go ahead! Want to question my maturity, you sick piece of an abonimable presence on my shoe? Go ahead!

Idiot! You think you can match wits with me? You are more insane than I thought. Want to "stir the kettle?" Congratulations, you accomplished that splendid goal of achievemnt and nobility. You hurt a lot of people! Wonderful, fine people, that in their youthful, forgiving way, have chosen not to call for YOUR blood.

No more. You have not made any real contributions here. You have not created anything worthy of merit. I don't care what it is inside your soul that lies there, festering like a maggot filled tomb, waiting for its next meal
by feeding off the beauty and gentle spirits I have come to know and love on this forum.

One of your posts criticised me for "sucking up " to the members. And that "they did not care about me." Wanna bet?

You don't like it here? LEAVE
You think we are fools? LEAVE
You think we are pathetic? LEAVE

Get the picture?


Tx Mac,

No more, tis said and done! My promise.

wow... frank lost it. And he beat my essay on spammers too >_<

someone else who shares the same view on SoG as I do. good for you.

Slayer, this is basically what people think of you. People hold back so much when you critisise them. Not intending to start a flame-fest again, but you think we are the weak ones for the way we act. wrong./ We are strong for being able to hold our damn tongues.
You are weak for not being able to know when your true opinion is wanted on something.

and like he says. you have a problem with us. Leave. we don't need to leave because of one lousy member deciding he wants to be big and hard.

And Rhoey: don't worry about what you said. I know that everyone had a limit to tolerance against things.

frank
03-04-2005, 05:33 PM
Chill out.
This will lead you nowhere. And it's good to see you've calmed down, Frank.

I think most of you here remember the time when I told everyone to f*** off and that everyone are all pathetic idiots?
And the complaints the admins got about me, asking if they could somehow suspend me or set me back to normal member instead of mod?

I do that sometimes, without even caring.
There's always a background to that kind behaviour. Something that triggers it.

What I'm trying to say is that I'm not blaming slayer for the way he is. I'm not expecting him to like me or accept me either.
I'm just saying I can relate to the way he is, all too much.

Though I know it aggravates you, Frank. It's never worth wasting energy on hating someone or something. Use that energy for something else instead. You're just aggravating yourself with this.



Anyway, don't bring this up anymore.
Just move on posting normally, or if not, then I could as well close this topic.

Tx Rhoey,

No more, tis said & done! My promise. Please leave the thread open? It is a good one and deserves proper attention instead of the ranting of two who create havoc. My apologies to you and all of ACF.

Soi Fon
03-04-2005, 08:13 PM
What are you trying to prove? o.o' Slayer is cold hearted. You should know that. Sei will end up locking this thread and giving someone a warning for misconduct.

Does it mean we are willing to let people condamn others to hell just because they think its fun and for the reason behind this one which is cold-heartedness? I personally find it irrelavent.

I did not say that. What I meant is Slayer doesn't care what happens to others, nothing we can say wiil change him.

Hiro
03-05-2005, 03:10 AM
What are you trying to prove? o.o' Slayer is cold hearted. You should know that. Sei will end up locking this thread and giving someone a warning for misconduct.

Does it mean we are willing to let people condamn others to hell just because they think its fun and for the reason behind this one which is cold-heartedness? I personally find it irrelavent.

I did not say that. What I meant is Slayer doesn't care what happens to others, nothing we can say wiil change him.

But it is not right to allow him to do so either. He should tone his opinion down. (in my view) Sensitive matters shouldn't be brought up so straight forwardly.

Mac
03-05-2005, 12:11 PM
[quote=Aoi]

What are you trying to prove? o.o' Slayer is cold hearted. You should know that. Sei will end up locking this thread and giving someone a warning for misconduct.

Does it mean we are willing to let people condamn others to hell just because they think its fun and for the reason behind this one which is cold-heartedness? I personally find it irrelavent.

I did not say that. What I meant is Slayer doesn't care what happens to others, nothing we can say wiil change him.

But it is not right to allow him to do so either. He should tone his opinion down. (in my view) Sensitive matters shouldn't be brought up so straight forwardly.[/quote:1jlnki9m]

just to make everyone feel better the mods and admin are having a poll to see if he should be banned.

7minutes
03-05-2005, 02:06 PM
ba]Thnx alot dude. And that's really a MALE so^^;; Yeah.

regardless if Gwen was born a male, i'd state her to be female and it was unjsut what happened to her. She was born male, but like most transexuals, even with boy characteriristics she was female by gender.

Note, there is a difference between Sexand Gender

Also, this is a rather itnerestng had hot topic, so i do not wish to see this topic closed but please note, don't go overboard. Slayer of God is entitled to his own opinions and is using this forum to express himself. Although i do not agree with his views or opinions, none the less, he is entitled to them.

However-shouting dogs abuse at other members will not be tolerated if carried on.

Also, Frank, i've pm'd you about your double posting. Please do not do that.

Sei Akujin
03-05-2005, 09:33 PM
Slayer has been asked many times to tone his opinion down, ACF forums, PMs, and IM, think it does any good? No. So why bother asking him?

This thread has lost its meaning now, no longer about trannies, but about Slayer of God. I am locking it. If it is to be reopened, mods and admins are welcomed to it. Just clean it up.